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Jono Mills: Welcome To This Point.: conversations with students about how God brought them to Sydney's Moore Theological College. I'm your host, Jono Mills, and today we're talking with our co-host. Mm-hmm. Nathan.

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Uh, you've probably heard a few episodes by now, but Nathan, this is the first one we've recorded, right? Mm-hmm. Nathan Hutchinson: It is, it is the very first one. So,

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Jono Mills: sorry Nathan Hutchinson: if the format is weird or my answers are weird, Jono Mills: we shall see. This is the

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Nathan Hutchinson: test run, Jono Mills: but I, I, I think it's a very special episode. Uh, we've heard from Nathan interviewing others, but now we get to hear his story. Nathan Hutchinson: Mm-hmm.

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Jono Mills: Um, how exciting is that? To This Point., ask three questions about how God has brought you To This Point.. Where have you come from? Why are you here, and where do you hope to go?

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So Nathan. Nathan Hutchinson: Mm-hmm. Jono Mills: Where have you come from? Nathan Hutchinson: Where have I come from?

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Oh, okay. I have a mixed background. So I am 50% Filipino, uh, and, you know, uh, white Australian, my dad's side is white Australian. So interestingly enough, if you saw me walking around campus, like no one guesses that I'm Filipino, Filipinos, do not guess that I'm Filipino.

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Um, but yeah, I'm technically more Filipino than anything else. Music: Oh Nathan Hutchinson: yeah, because the western side of me, it's mixed, you know, across Europe. Um, so, but, so the, the lion share of my ethnicity is Filipino.

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Um, yeah, so my mom, uh, married my dad and. My mom was pregnant with me. My parents got married and my mom was pregnant with me in the Philippines. Jono Mills: Oh wow.

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Nathan Hutchinson: Yeah. But then they came to Australia so that I could be born here and like naturalised here. And then very quickly went back to the Philippines. Jono Mills: Hmm.

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Nathan Hutchinson: So I was in the Philippines all the way up until I was like four years old, I think. Yeah, yeah. And 'cause it's a completely different cast of characters. The settings are different.

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I remember it vividly. So I have a lot of memories from the Philippines and they're all of my earliest memories. Jono Mills: Wow. Nathan Hutchinson: Um, yeah.

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Do Jono Mills: you feel quite an affinity to the Philippines? Nathan Hutchinson: Yeah, I, you know, I think everyone with like mixed heritage goes through the thing of like, am I this enough or am I not that enough? Um, so, you know, it's had its ups and downs, but I think Oh, very much now.

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Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Especially, I've just gone to.

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See some extended family Jono Mills: mm-hmm. Nathan Hutchinson: Uh, that are living in the us. My mom lives in the us.

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Um, and after something like that, I feel very strongly Jono Mills: Oh wow. Nathan Hutchinson: I have a strong affinity. I love Philipp.

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Are you excited Jono Mills: that Jolly Bees coming to Nathan Hutchinson: Australia? I, I really, really am.

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And out of all the places, I think it's like Campbelltown Jono Mills: Campbelltown Nathan Hutchinson: close to

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Jono Mills: you, right? Nathan Hutchinson: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So, so

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Jono Mills: Filipino friends will enjoy that Nathan Hutchinson: reference. Yeah. I'll definitely, um, make a trip to Jolly Bee opening.

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Jono Mills: Maybe we can have a College excursion. Um, Nathan Hutchinson: yeah. Jono Mills: So yeah.

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Interesting. First few years. Nathan Hutchinson: Mm-hmm. Jono Mills: Uh.

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You came to Australia when you were four? Nathan Hutchinson: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thereabouts to start, uh, preschool. Yeah.

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Jono Mills: And where, whereabouts, or, I gave it away before, but mm-hmm. Southwest Sydney. Nathan Hutchinson: Mm-hmm. Jono Mills: Mm-hmm.

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So I start preschool. Nathan Hutchinson: Yeah. Jono Mills: Um, what was your family life like? Nathan Hutchinson: Yeah.

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My family life was, um, yeah, quite interesting already from the beginning. The reason my, my dad married, um, someone from the Philippines in the first place he went there is 'cause he'd already had, um, a child. So that's my older sister. Uh, she was, uh, like four years old at the time, maybe a little older.

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And, um, her mum was Filipino. So I guess my dad's logic, it was like, you know, this, this might help some, um, familiarity. And so they got married there and that just meant that from the beginning. Already had a mixed family.

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Jono Mills: Yes. Nathan Hutchinson: Uh, so yeah, my mum was very young as well. Uh, she was like 22 years old. And so yeah, from my earliest memories, just understanding that my family had a different makeup, um, than a lot of other people's.

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Mm. And um, yeah, just knowing that it was mixed, him, Jono Mills: very mixed. Mm. Okay. Well dumping forward then, um, as, as actually know, here's a more important question.

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Mm. Where did Jesus fit into things when you were a kid? Nathan Hutchinson: Mm, yeah, definitely. Okay. So when I was young and like primary school age and everything, my mom being Filipino means that she's like devoutly Roman Catholic.

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So she cares a lot about Catholic church. Um, praise often in the morning rosary, how Jesus fit into my life. One of the earliest prayers that I ever remember praying, uh, wrote prayers that my mom taught me to say before going to bed. Jono Mills: Wow.

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Nathan Hutchinson: Yeah. So. Um, yeah, two or three different prayers to pray before you go to bed. And then at the very end, like you say, and bless this family member and bless this family member.

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And so I feel like I still get into the trap now, but it started way back then as like, oh wow. I'm like, I feel like I need to pray for everyone. Like I can't have my grandpa in the Philippines missing out on this blessing. Jono Mills: Yes.

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Nathan Hutchinson: Okay. And so I'm up for age of trying to think about everyone to pray for. Oh, wow. But yeah, in terms of how Jesus fit in, I knew that prayer was something significant.

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Because it was important to my mom and she was passionate about, um, her religious belief and her commitment to the Roman Catholic Church. But in terms of church attendance, you know, in primary school, uh, early primary school, I can count like, not even on one hand the number of times I'd ever been into a church. Wow. Yeah.

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So that was a strong, um, influence from my mom. And I guess, you know, there was a friend at school who was like orthodox. Because my mom is Roman Catholic. I was like, religion is important.

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Mm. And it should be an important thing in my life. And one of my best friends was Orthodox, uh, and he told me that he'd read the whole Bible. You know, we're like seven year olds. Jono Mills: Wow.

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Nathan Hutchinson: And I am like, Jono Mills: psu. Nathan Hutchinson: Uh, I, I doubt it. Now I'm a bit suspicious of the claim.

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But at the time I believed him wholeheartedly. Wow. And so I was like, oh, okay. Reading the Bible, that should be something that's on my list.

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Um, yeah. Like never got around to it in primary school, so to say. Have you Jono Mills: got around to it now?

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Nathan Hutchinson: Read the whole Bible. I'm pretty sure I have, yeah. Not systematic. The lecturers

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Jono Mills: you're Nathan Hutchinson: watching. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

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Not systematic. But, um, yeah, so I knew that religion was important. Mm. I knew that the Bible had a special place in that and that Jesus had a special place in that. And I knew that prayer was important as a strong influence for my mom.

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Uh, on my dad's side, my dad, um, has always said that he's a Christian, but I can't count the number of times I haven't been to church, uh, with my dad. Really? That would happen a little later, uh, along in my journey. Mm.

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Um, but his background was. To give you context, I don't think my dad would have a problem with this. My uncle told me that my dad became a Christian at an Amway conference, which is like a multi-level marketing thing. Oh yeah.

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My dad is very into business and I guess those things were a little bit more intertwined. Interesting. Maybe in like the, you know, like the eighties or something. Jono Mills: Okay.

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Nathan Hutchinson: Uh, so that's an interesting version of Christianity. Yes. Yet again, Jono Mills: they have very mixed family.

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Um, just, just full stop, but even more so when it came to Christianity. Nathan Hutchinson: Yeah, correct. So the place of Jesus and the place of religion, um, could tell it was important, but didn't know exactly how to engage, uh, well or didn't see what that looks like. Um, one thing that I definitely did all of the time, or not all the time, something that I knew that I could do though, was pray.

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Jono Mills: Mm. Nathan Hutchinson: So even from a really young age. I remember praying myself, not just the wrote prayers that my mom taught me, but I would pray myself on occasion. But because there was this reverence and this spirituality, I didn't want to do it often.

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Like I didn't want to take it for granted. So I would only pray on special occasions. Jono Mills: Only when you needed to. Nathan Hutchinson: Yeah, only when I needed to, like if I needed to get to school on time and there would be big consequences on this occasion.

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Okay. Didn't wanna Jono Mills: use all the prayers up. Nathan Hutchinson: Yeah.

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Didn't wanna use 'em all up. Didn't wanna take it for granted or be irreverent about it. But I remember having a distinct memory, um, that it would always work. Yeah.

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So, you know, in God's kindness. Yeah. Now, like as an adult, Jono Mills: so there's some kind of childhood faith.

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Nathan Hutchinson: Yeah. Jono Mills: But you didn't go to church regularly, but then. Suddenly you did? Nathan Hutchinson: Yeah.

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Jono Mills: How, how old were you when you first went to an Anglican church? Nathan Hutchinson: Yeah, yeah. Or just like really church in general? Yeah.

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Church in general. Jono Mills: More Nathan Hutchinson: than one week at a time. Um, yeah, more than that.

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That handful of times I ended up going to church, um, in Liverpool South when I was, uh, maybe 15 years old. Jono Mills: Okay. Do you wanna tell us Nathan Hutchinson: your story?

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Jono Mills: Oh, yeah. Nathan Hutchinson: Yeah, definitely. So, uh, I mean, we've skipped kind of a whole bunch of time from early primary school through to my, uh, middle of high school years. Mm-hmm.

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Um, unfortunately in like the preceding decade. Mm-hmm. Uh, after getting to Australia and kind of settling in, um, kind of all hell had broken loose, uh, on my family. Uh, really.

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Unfortunately, um, yeah, it got quite grim and, and heavy at times and I unfortunately had to see, uh, yeah, like pretty much each of my family members go through some really, really hard times. Um, you know, a lot of that is self-imposed and sin and poor decisions, but so much of it as well is just, it was a brokenness of the world and, you know, kind of being collateral damage in that. Jono Mills: Yeah. Nathan Hutchinson: Uh, so my family come, my mid high school years, um, was all around the place.

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Like I said, my mom lives in the US now. Um, my sister had a really rough time and she was in and out of our lives, and so it was just my dad and I at home. Music: Okay. Nathan Hutchinson: Um, you know, trying to get by.

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Uh, but my sister would come into our lives kind of all of a sudden, uh, on occasion. Mm-hmm. And like I said, there was this background of spiritual reverence in my family, even though. They weren't like reading the Bible or thinking hard about what it meant to follow Jesus.

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Um, and so my sister came into our lives again in an unexpected way, and she was really quite distressed. And she said, I need to see a priest. I need to see a priest, or I'm gonna die. Jono Mills: Wow.

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Nathan Hutchinson: Yeah. And so that's basically how we, uh, ended up going to church. Um, it was walking distance from my house, which is an important part of the story. Jono Mills: Yeah.

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Nathan Hutchinson: Because it meant that I could actually get to church. Um, you know, in following weeks and, and months and years. Um, but yeah, we went to the church. That was the closest church that we could find.

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Jono Mills: Wow. Nathan Hutchinson: Um, it always looked like it was closed for some reason, and that's the impression every visitor has. Yes. To my home, church, or back in the day.

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We've done some stuff Okay. To make it look a bit more alive, like the facade looks a bit more alive. But yeah, we thought, I thought it was closed. And then, but yeah, we, we turned up to church on a Sunday evening.

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Uh, they were running, uh, evening service at the time, and before church they would do a sausage sizzle. And I just remember the impression that I got, which was, um, when we showed up to church, my dad, my sister and I, we look a bit dishevelled and a bit kind of outta sorts. Um, if you've been going to church any amount of time, you kind of know the people that I'm talking about where, um, you know, they show up to church and you don't know necessarily what to do for them or how to help. Um, and more often than not.

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That's the one week you see them. Jono Mills: Mm. Nathan Hutchinson: Um, and they don't really turn up again, which is really hard. But I think that's what we look like to this, you know, group of people meeting for night service.

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Wow. And the crazy thing about that night service and that little sausage sizzle is that there was only about 10 people attending. Jono Mills: Wow. Nathan Hutchinson: Yeah.

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So it is a really small, Jono Mills: yeah. Nathan Hutchinson: Um, but the overwhelming impression that I got was that when I showed up. Instead of getting strange looks, which was something I had really got accustomed to at that point, when I was going around with my family, people met them with love.

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I didn't have to. Be self-conscious about my dad and my sister. Wow, Jono Mills: that's so good.

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Nathan Hutchinson: All productive. Jono Mills: Yeah. Nathan Hutchinson: Um, yeah, they were greeted and they were talked to and engaged with like people, and I know now, like in hindsight that that was just God's love coming through his people. Um, and so it meant that I could talk to one other kid there that was my age and people took an interest in me and I sat in for the service every time that a song came, like, songs are so uncomfortable for people visiting church.

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It's a culture shock. Yes. And so every time a song came on, my dad went outside to like smoke a cigarette. Yeah.

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And my sister went to the bathroom to go to the toilet. And you're Jono Mills: just standing Nathan Hutchinson: there.

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I'm like. Do my hands go in my pockets. Do I cross my arms? That feels too defensive.

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I also Jono Mills: know. Nathan Hutchinson: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was a harrowing experience, but I was met with so much kindness in these people Wonderful.

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That I wanted to come back. Wow. Um, so I came back the next Sunday and I was invited to youth group and um, yeah. Started going to youth group at that church.

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Jono Mills: Mm-hmm. Nathan Hutchinson: Um, yeah. So that's kind of how I started going to Liver South Anglo again. Jono Mills: That's so wonderful.

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'cause I think. If you've been a Christian for a while, it, you can tend to be quite cynical about church and the, the job we do often of, of welcoming people doesn't always feel like it's done well. Nathan Hutchinson: Mm-hmm. Jono Mills: So it's just so encouraging to hear that story.

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Nathan Hutchinson: Yeah. Yeah. Jono Mills: Uh, of, of love shine. Nathan Hutchinson: Mm-hmm.

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Jono Mills: Um, so you, you were brought into the church family. Nathan Hutchinson: Mm-hmm. Jono Mills: Uh, yeah. At what point did you make a decision for Jesus?

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Was that a slow thing? Mm. Or was it a, a particular day? Nathan Hutchinson: Yeah. I wouldn't say it was a particular day.

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I would say it was a set of months. Mm. Um, so already I was so impressed by the character of these people. Jono Mills: Mm. Nathan Hutchinson: That I wanted to know what it was that they believed like I really did.

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And so through sermons on Sunday and through our youth group. Uh, at the end of the week on Fridays, I remember, um, being really careful and trying to learn everything that I could. Um, I was gifted a Bible and so I would read that in my spare time at home as well. And, you know, I'd heard a lot about Jesus, but when I came to church and I started reading the stories and I started hearing about the gospel, um.

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There was some key moments where I'm reading the gospel and I'm reading Jesus, uh, in the Sermon on the Mount. And you know, I knew that my home life wasn't stellar. I knew it wasn't spectacular, but I was holding out hope that somehow at the end of the tunnel when I moved out or something, I would have the freedom to make my own choices. Jono Mills: Mm-hmm.

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Nathan Hutchinson: And I wouldn't be impacted by, you know, whatever was going on at home. And, and the difficulties there that somehow. When I had freedom, then I would have the opportunity to have like a good life or something like that. Mm.

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And I just remember reading the gospel and Jesus just calling me out, like left, right and centre. Talking about when you give with your left hand, make sure your right hand doesn't know what you're doing. If you hate a brother, you've killed him in your heart. And just getting to the heart of sin.

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Just facing the fact that like at the rock bottom, it doesn't matter where I am or who I'm with, the problem is in me. Um, and so I was so crushed effectively by Jesus. Yes, but understanding and seeing the light in his preaching, I think for so many years, living in that household and seeing. Um, the worst things that can happen to people like walking around.

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I almost felt like I was walking through tar. That's what life felt like. It felt dark. It felt, um, constantly like there was resistance.

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And to hear Jesus' words and to see the way that he lived, I just, I loved him and it was light and it was love. And I read the words. Come to me or you who are weary and burdened, and I'll give you rest. And I saw rest in Jesus.

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And so over those that time I was just compelled by him. I was compelled by the life that he had to offer. And so over those months, I'm learning more about Jesus and what it means to follow him. But also I'm seeing all of these moments where Jesus calls people and they follow him.

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Music: Mm. Nathan Hutchinson: And. You know, anyone who puts their hand on the plough but looks back isn't fit for service. Yeah.

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And so I just get this impending feeling. Music: Wow. Nathan Hutchinson: Uh, and it's intimidating. Music: Yeah.

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Nathan Hutchinson: Like a train is coming into the station and I don't know where it's going, but I know I have to get on and I have to make that choice. Uh, and so yeah, I just. Through that process and through really, um, godly ministry to me, like from youth group leader and the minister at my church and other Christians, you know, I started to learn what it looked like to get on the train, you know, what it looked like to give my sin over to Jesus and in the prayers that we said at church and in my own time and what it meant to try to live for him better.

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Mm. Um, so, yeah, I can't put it down to one moment, but it was definitely just a condensed period of months of really hearing this for the first time. Clear preaching that, um. I just could see the life that was offered to me in Jesus. So

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Jono Mills: wonderful. Yeah. Um, I mean, amazing. It is both the individual searching and doing, but also the church.

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Nathan Hutchinson: Absolutely. Jono Mills: Uh, work coming alongside you. Um, what a wonderful story. Thanks for sharing that.

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Yeah. That was the first question. Nathan Hutchinson: Yes. Jono Mills: And, uh, as I'm sure regular listens to our episodes, know that the first question takes up the most time.

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Nathan Hutchinson: Right. Jono Mills: Uh, but, uh, we hope so. I wanna move on from the first question mm-hmm. Of where have you come from?

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Okay. Amazing story of God's grace to you, uh, to them being, why are you here? Nathan Hutchinson: Yeah, so post high school and everything, oh, maybe even pre high school. So all of my experiences, um, with church is really what led me to come to College here after really, you know, deciding to follow Jesus and becoming a Christian in a real way.

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Unfortunately, like that didn't fix everything in my life, you know? Uh, things still, I guess, continue to get worse. Things at home got to a stage where, um, a family from church said that like, you know, we can tell that it's not very sustainable, what your domestic life is like. Jono Mills: Mm-hmm.

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Nathan Hutchinson: So would you be willing to live with us Wow. For two years? Yeah. Would you be willing to live with us for two years while you finish your year 11 and 12 hsc?

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And so, um, you know, I did do that. Uh, there's a lot more to that story. Uh, if anyone. Wants to ask me any more details about any of my story, I'm really willing to, like, I'll take any opportunity to boast about God's kindness.

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Um, so please, I'm really more than happy to share, uh, in person. But it was things like that. Uh, there were people from church who were trained in Bible and they were so loving and kind and they taught me the gospel and people were willing to share their homes with me. And so I think just.

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I had this big burden of, um, gratitude, uh, to God and to his people that I just felt like I really wanted to be serving. But after high school, I ended up moving out of their home. I ended up moving in with a housemate from church, uh, and we lived together on. Moore Street, Liverpool.

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Jono Mills: Named after. Nathan Hutchinson: Named after Thomas Moore. Yeah. The reason why people might not know this, Moore College started, it lived in the heart of Liverpool.

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Yeah. Amazing. It did. So I lived basically on the corner of Moore Street and I'm just sitting there looking at that street sign.

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You know, knowing that these people who are so influential in my own spiritual journey and who are equipped to present me the words of life. Wow. I'm just looking at this street sign thinking like one day, Jono Mills: one day

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Nathan Hutchinson: I'm gonna get to that place from Jono Mills: Wall Street to Moore College. Nathan Hutchinson: Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

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So Jono Mills: wonderful. You, you were really encouraged by these different saints to, to consider Moore College, something you've been dreaming for, for a long time. Were there any, any doubts or fears you had when you, when you finally came to Moore College?

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Nathan Hutchinson: Yeah, definitely. Um, even in the application process and just thinking about. What it would be like to take on College, uh, immediately after high school going into uni. Um, the kind of environment that I grew up in and the habits or lack of any habits really did not set me up for success or any routine.

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Uh, and it affects your character and your ability to grow and mature and make right decisions. And so I was not set for success when I eventually went into, uh, university and I studied engineering. It was a long and difficult process and one that I ultimately didn't finish. And so I took a break from studying.

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I met my wife, uh, Emin, um, at my home church. Um. And that's a whole nother story. Like that's a testimonial whole nother podcast in Australia.

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Exactly. That's a testimonial in and of itself, um, of, you know, how God can reform character. Mm. But we met and we wanted to get married, so I ended up working so that I could help fund that. And then we had our daughter, and so I was working for that and INE was finishing her studies, and then she finally comes to the end of her studies.

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Mm. Um, just, you know, a little over, uh, a year ago. Jono Mills: Mm-hmm. Nathan Hutchinson: And the opportunity opens up as. There's space to go back into full-time study.

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Jono Mills: Hey. Nathan Hutchinson: And so the question is, is it time, uh, to go to College? And so I bring it up with, um, people that I really, uh, loved and respected people who had been in ministry. And yeah, the question came up of, you know, you didn't finish your previous studies.

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Um. Are you running from that, you know, or do you think that you'll be able to take on, uh, the difficult study that is at College? And so, you know, I really, uh, you know, asked serious questions and I had to think hard about having serious answers. And in God's kindness we were able to see, uh, Emin and I, how God had been really leading us, um, to this place in the little things that I'd been learning and the way that my character had grown and God had been transforming me.

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Hmm. And so there's still a lot of work to do, but. We could say with confidence that this is where, uh, God wanted us to be. Um, and so I was really thankful for the people that I chatted to and that, um, yeah, helped me scrutinise myself.

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Um, but that was my biggest fear going into College. I was terrified. Music: Yeah. Nathan Hutchinson: Um.

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Three years out from coming to College. I can't tell you the last book that I'd finished reading, you know, but I learned how to read. I couldn't type with more than like four fingers and looking at the keyboard and like, how am I gonna write an essay? Now

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Jono Mills: you've gotta type in Hebrew, Nathan Hutchinson: but no. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

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But no, I got that down before coming to College, but still coming in. I just thought, um, yeah, how is the study gonna be? Mm. It's going to be intimidating. And so I was so intimidated.

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Jono Mills: Yeah. Nathan Hutchinson: Um, by the studies and I was intimidated by. You know, the calling it is, uh, to be a minister, uh, of the gospel and how presumptuous almost it can be. Jono Mills: Mm.

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Nathan Hutchinson: And so, yeah, I just really wanted to, um, yeah, grow so that I could meet that challenge with God's help. Jono Mills: Mm. Nathan Hutchinson: Um, and so I was terrified about going into first year. Yeah.

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Jono Mills: Do, do you have any, uh, advice or encouragement for those. In a similar situation like yourself, you might not have finished uni, might not have gone to uni at all. Nathan Hutchinson: Mm-hmm. Jono Mills: Mm-hmm.

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Because it can be quite intimidating Nathan Hutchinson: College. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely.

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What I would say is, um, yeah, like really do your best to prepare. Mm-hmm. Like learn to read well and consistently and 'cause you do have to do reading like there's no getting around that, but. Just get your habits right, because the great thing about the curriculum, and I think it's been really prayerfully put together, is that you will learn the skills that you need to, um, if you just do the work.

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Um, the programme is so designed so that it doesn't take. A crazy amount of work to pass. Jono Mills: Mm, Nathan Hutchinson: it is hard.

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It is a hurdle, but if you do what you're told to do and you're asked to do and you set time aside and you do it, you will learn like really valuable skills for handling the Bible and pursuing ministry. Um, but there is also space for you to go deep and do all of the recommended readings and to really make the most out of your time at College. And so I'm somewhere in between. I think

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Jono Mills: 90% of people are. Nathan Hutchinson: But yeah, I'm doing my best to make the most of my time. Absolutely. And to learn.

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But what it takes to actually yeah, just pass and to acquire the skills that they want of you. Um, it's actually really approachable. Jono Mills: Mm-hmm. I hope that's an encouragement to any of our listeners who might be feeling similar.

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Uh, Nathan, we've answered two of our two, three questions. Uh, we've heard where you've come from. We've heard why you're here. Just looking ahead.

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Nathan Hutchinson: Mm-hmm. Jono Mills: Where are you going? Where do you hope to be? I don't know, five years?

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PostCollege. Yeah. Uhhuh. Where would you love to be serving the Lord?

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Nathan Hutchinson: Oh yeah, definitely. Um, five years post College. There's only so much I can know like about that. Genuinely.

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I'm just trusting God. He has a plan. Um, but I think just the way that I became a Christian, the way that the gospel was, um, demonstrated and presented to me, I've always had a heart for, um. Parish pastoral parish ministry.

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So I'm desperate to do for others what people were so faithful and kind to do for me. Jono Mills: How lovely. Nathan Hutchinson: Yeah, so that's always been my prayer. So I'd love to be working in a church, sharing the gospel, helping people understand what it means to follow Jesus well and to give more and more of their lives, uh, over to him.

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So that's pretty much what I'm working towards. Jono Mills: No, that's all you're up to To This Point.. Nathan Hutchinson: Yeah, that's right. Second year, the beginning of second year of College.

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That's what brought me To This Point.. Yeah. Jono Mills: How, how wonderful to hear how the Lord worked for you, um, and how we continue to work for you. Uh, I'm excited to see where God takes you, Nathan, not just as my podcast co-host, but also beyond. Uh, how about we close in prayer?

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Nathan Hutchinson: Yeah. Thank you. Jono Mills: Uh, father God, we thank you so much for, uh, the church. We thank you for.

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Just how well you've used saints in Nathan's life. Uh, firstly, welcoming his family and caring for them, caring for him, showing him Jesus, uh, convicting him, that he can serve you as well. Father, I thank you for Nathan's, uh, heart for your church. Um, Lord, I pray you'll be helping him as he continuous his studies.

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And we, we pray as well for, uh, post-College as well, uh, that you'll be using him, uh, and his family to serve you and your church, and to be looking out for the outsiders, uh, for those who, uh, we, we may be tempted to overlook, but who, uh, desperately need the gospel and who are. Are often more likely to receive it than we expect. Uh, we thank you so much for your work. We thank you for saving Nathan.

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Nathan Hutchinson: You've been listening to, To This Point., a podcast from "Societas", the student magazine of Sydney's Moore Theological College. To find out more about the College and to listen to past episodes, head to moore.edu.au. That's moore.edu.au. This podcast was edited and produced with assistance from the Communications Team at Moore Theological College, and our music was provided by Moore College graduate Zaneta Neal.

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