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Now, okay, the first question. I'm going to ask this to all of you. Maybe we'll start with you, Professor. This is reflecting on Assumptus testimony. How can we promote our churches to be more communal? What about this, do we struggle in, maybe you guys, you can reflect on us in Aussie culture, why is this hard for us?

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Give us some practical tips there. Individualism was strength of Western civilization. It begins with Martin Luther, when he says, "My conscience is captive to the Word of God. I will not go along with what the Pope says, what the Emperor says, because I will be just

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according to my conscience and I must, it's not right, it's not safe to go against my conscience and bow." So he gave a sermon in Mahabhag on two kingdoms that Pope has authority over me, Bishop has authority over me, Emperor has authority over me, but my soul belongs to Jesus. He is my Lord and Pope has

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an authority where Jesus reigns. The Lordship of Christ abolishes the Lordship of man. Now, this was institutionalized through Westminster Confession in 1640s. This was of course coming from Paul's epistles, particularly Timothy and Titus, the emphasis on conscience, which became the source of Western

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strength and Western freedom. In 1841, Ralph Veldoy Merson, the transcendentalist, he began to secularize Christian individualism and now you have in the West a secularized individualism which has corrupted the Gospel. So Billy Graham's evangelism, which is saving individual souls, is secularized individualism. The

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difference between biblical individualism and secular individualism is, biblical individualism is, Christ is calling us to take up our cross, but he says not my will, but dying be done. You take my body, you take my blood, you break my body for others. So Christian individualism was surrendered of an individual to

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Jesus for the sake of the world. It was not selfishness, but Ralph Veldoy Merson, his essay is very powerful. It's called self-reliance. It went to the extent of saying that don't go to church because then you will begin to think like your pastor and elders. You meditate in the silence, listen to your own

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heart, your own voice. So secularization of individualism meant that I'm the center of my universe. Jesus exists for me, churches for me, marriages for me, if this marriage is not satisfying, I divorce my wife. This baby is for me. If the baby is inconvenient, I killed my baby. So Western individualism, which

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every child high school student had to read Ralph Veldoy Merson's essay Self-Reliance, and that has corrupted Western Gospel, that it is all about me. Rather than my surrender to Jesus for the sake of the world. So American theology, which has had this corrupting influence globally, including in

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Australia, has got to be challenged, and we have to understand that the great commission to go in disciple nations is not a commission to save individual souls. The idea of individual soul is a metaphysical mistake because soul being made in the image of a triumphant God is a relational being. When you're born

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again, you become a living stone, members of other living stones, to become a body which is indulged by a common spirit. Jesus is building his body, his house soul, a heavenly temple. He's not building mentions for individual souls, which is how we have, where Western theology has corrupted the Gospel. So we've got

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to, yes, people who become Christians, they come from South Asia, and they find Australian church, which is very individualistic. At most, it is nuclear family. It is not a household of God. So a radical challenge to the way Western theology has developed since 1841, since DL Moody, Billy Sunday, Billy Graham,

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etc. This intellectual theological challenge has to be mounted.